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Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:45:42 +0200 last edited: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:02:29 +0200

Ján Bogár via Moravian Kaleidoscopy Ltd🇺🇦

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

This is what it looked like in Slovakia on 21.8.1968. Armies of the Warsaw pact invaded Czechoslovakia. Why? Because we wanted democracy instead of a communist totalitarian regime.

They killed 148 people and almost half a milion people emigrated in the followong years (many died attempting to cross the guarded borders).

They stayed until 1991, leaving behind them ruin, death, enviromental and cutural damage.

https://domov.sme.sk/g/101626/august-1968-na-fotografiach

#communism #history #invasion1968 #czechoslovakia #russia

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Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:40:54 +0200

synlogic

synlogic@toot.io

@janbogar yup Russians have been evil predators for around a century by now. I think its wise for rest of world to assume they'll never change

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:25:51 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@synlogic No way. Not last 100 years. From the very beginning. From Muscovy time. Nothing changed on their imperialism from Ivan the Terrible.

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:35:36 +0200

synlogic

synlogic@toot.io

@martin sounds consistent with my knowledge of their history as well.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:49:54 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar i hope you'll also take position about what USA did in latin america. Or because it's USA, it was "for the good" ?

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:29:33 +0200 last edited: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:29:52 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou Why? I am sharing history of my country on the day it happened. I don't have to take position on every injustice that ever happened. Should I also express my position on Viking invasion of Britain, German invasion of Poland, Soviet invasion of Poland, or Sea peoples' invasion into Egypt?

And what's your position? Instead of taking any, you just resorted to whataboutism. If you wanted to talk positions, you shoud have started with that.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:57:22 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar it's more about when i ask peoples like you to describe "totalitarian communist regime" they end describing USA, or even NATO countries.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:11:37 +0200 last edited: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:20:17 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou Lol, my parents lived in it and I was lucky enough to be born a year after its definitive fall. I don't have to explain it to you, I can just show you:

https://mok.sk/en/victims-stories/

In USA, people can leave anytime they want. Here we couldn't. The border was guarded, like in North Korea. Yet still many tried and many died attempting it. That's all you really need to know.

We are a NATO country. We desperately wanted to be one. It's not even remotely comparable.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:25:22 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

Biden the genocider saying "Russian Man Bad"

@janbogar Leave to go where ? Most of europe countries are USA puppet, and the others has been destroyed by USA imperialism or USA-funded countries. USA is a terrorist state.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:57:10 +0200 last edited: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 11:49:38 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou If those are the conditions, they still have the whole former Soviet union to go to. No USA infuence at all, in the past or in the present. Paradise on earth.

Or, you know, wherever else. If that's all it takes to stop them from leaving, they don't have a reaon to leave.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:38:07 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@Titou :archlinux: You are uneducated little child. You think occupation of Kuwait by Iraq was great and defeating of occupiers was the crime, for example. You are disgusting totalitarian trash.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:13:03 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@martin if being uneducated mean refusing to obey to uncle sam then yes i am

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:14:15 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@Titou :archlinux: You are only incapable uneducated moron. Try elementary school.

#^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_invasion_of_Kuwait

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:59:07 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@martin now now, even though she acts like a moron, there is no reason to insult her by saying it to her face.

She might yet learn. But even if she doesn't, it doesn't help anyone. Culture is important.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:01:19 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@Ján Bogár Projel jsem si jeho/její profil a je to typický dezolát. 🤷‍♂️

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:09:07 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@martin You're so cute thinking they were there to help Kuwait. In fact they wanted to defend saudi arabia by going by kuwait(which was not asked by kuwait gov). Then they told the peoples to revolt against the iraqi governement(wouldn't surprise me to learn they weaponized some groups).

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:09:10 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@martin áno, je, ale nemám rád, keď sa vlákna pod mojimi statusmi menia na vzájomné pokrikovanie urážok.

A aj takí občas precitnú :D
https://dennikn.sk/3466309/kosican-ktory-chcel-preplavat-do-ruska-je-uz-na-ceste-domov-skladbu-ospevujucu-putina-hodil-do-kosa/?cst=b6fabea1160319b01f17c773c77fafeecfdb89cb4daa6f0cfa71173553aa1efc

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 15:21:04 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@Titou :archlinux: 😁🤣
Very uneducated, try elementary school.

Image/photo

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:49:13 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@martin ah yes, the famous "if you don't like USA, you can go to [insert country ravaged by USA]" argument.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:55:52 +0200

Martin Kostera

martin@libera.site

@Titou :archlinux:
You are only dumb dicktator lover and you are trolling under the commemorating of the soviet dicktatorship's invasion. You are disgrace of humanity. Go to your dicktatorship(you clearly love chinese dicktatorship on your timeline). Go away and learn basics in elementary school, little incapable and uneducated child.

#^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_invasion_of_Kuwait

Image/photo

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:56:21 +0200 last edited: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 22:20:35 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou you obviously hate the USA. I assume you live in it. I don't blame you, it could be a legitimate position.

So you looked at the USA, made an ideological turn of 180°, looked at their Gret Historical Enemy (GHE) and thought: "there, that's the opposite, that will solve all the issues".

It doesn't work like that. In this case, that GHE is much, much worse than anything USA is today, even with all its failings. Choosing the greater evil is not a valid critique, or helpfull.

1/2

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:59:09 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou
2/2
We have such people here too. In Slovakia, they are usually neonacists because of their nostalgia for the slovak fascist state, in Czechia, they are communists and fascists, often at the same time.

Lenin (allegedly) called them usefull idiots.

Don't romanticise brutal oppresive regimes. Listen to the people who lived in them. Check out the museum link I sent, I am sure you can find other written testimonies. And then make your own opinions. Don't be an usefull idiot.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:16:08 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar im not from USA, also im not sure there's a country that invaded more than the USA.

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:22:50 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar what's GHE ?

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:34:23 +0200 last edited: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:25:31 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou Great Historical Enemy. The term I use. For US, it used to be cold war Russia, although nowdays maybe radical islam is taking it's place? For France I assume it's Germany and fascism, for us it's either communism or fascism, depending on how far you go. For Poland I am pretty sure it's Russia. For southern USA it could be the north. For Greeks the Turkey, for India I assume Britain, although I am not sure. For Britain I assume IRA.

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:27:04 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou where are you from, out of curiosity?

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:45:32 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar what where im from has to do with this ?

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:29:19 +0200 last edited: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 10:30:35 +0200

Ján Bogár

janbogar@mastodonczech.cz

@HerNameIsTitou not much, you don't have to share it.

Just wanted to satisfy my curiosity. I like to understand how can the place where you live shape someone's political and geopolitical opinions.

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:04:49 +0200

Titou :archlinux:

HerNameIsTitou@mstdn.social

@janbogar All you need to know is that if i wanted to fit in my country's political views i would be a liberal pro-nato or a far-right winger